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Prince William to join Search and Rescue

In a surprise announcement from Clarence House this morning, it has emerged that Prince William will not leave the military next year to become a full-time working Royal.

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Prince William preparing for a flying mission

He will instead leave the Army and become a full-time member of the RAF’s Air, Sea Search and Rescue team, flying Sea King helicopters.

We understand he will serve for a minimum 30-36-month period, plus 18 months of training, totalling more than four years. He will be 30 or 31 when he finally hangs up his sword.

The work will involve hazardous rescue operations, winching people to safety from cliffs, ships and open seas in all weathers.

In a statement, Prince William said, “It has been a real privilege to have spent the past year understanding and experiencing all aspects of the British Armed Forces.

“I now want to build on the experience and training I have received to serve operationally — especially because, for good reasons, I was not able to deploy to Afghanistan this year with D Squadron of the Household Cavalry Regiment. The time I spent with the RAF earlier this year made me realize how much I love flying.

“Joining Search and Rescue is a perfect opportunity for me to serve in the Forces operationally, while contributing to a vital part of the country’s emergency services.”

In the next few weeks he will become the first member of the Royal Family to train with the elite special forces regiment, the SAS. He will also spend time with the Special Boat Squadron, the sister regiment of the SAS, and the Special Reconnaissance Regiment.

It’s obvious that Prince William is not yet ready to resume civilian life and cut the chord with the military. Like Prince Harry he enjoys the rough and tumble of serving with the Armed Forces, but is frustrated he’s not able to join his regiment on the front lines of the two wars they are fighting.

The Air Sea Rescue mission seems an ideal — if hazardous — alternative.

The question of his marriage therefore hangs in the balance. A training period of 18 months accords with several broad hints released to the press that he won’t be marrying for that length of time.

However, it is not beyond the bounds of possibility for him to take a month’s leave from training next summer to accommodate a wedding and honeymoon.

Since Air-Sea Rescue is British-based, Kate could easily live with him in married quarters, whether in Cornwall or Scotland. In those circumstances, nobody could accuse the second-tier Wales’s of shirking their duty to the nation.

Otherwise, the prospect of a wedding mid-2010 is the next window of opportunity, with a very distant date at the end of his service as the last resort. I can’t believe Kate would be willing to wait that long.

Of course, the 18-months line may just have been spun to divert attention from a Christmas announcement.

As always, we shall have to wait and see.

104 Responses to “Prince William to join Search and Rescue”

  1. It makes sense to me. I don’t think it’s a good idea for William to enter the field of full-time working Royals, who are already fairly thick on the ground. How many hospital wards, job centers, and organic market openings are there to go around? Until Charles takes the throne, William needs to carve a role for himself more substantial than Prince of Wales-in-waiting. John, I’m sure you don’t want him taking up anything vague and nebulous that could put him in danger of being tagged a “community organizer!”

    And there’s ample precedent for a Royal naval officer taking a wife. Indeed, Kate as a Navy wife would garner a lot of public goodwill, I think.

  2. I think so too, Dan, and if they married next summer in the middle of his training, he could use that as an excuse to have the ceremony at Windsor rather than the Abbey. ;)

  3. *sigh*

    On the one hand, I think his decision is wise, and it seems like the perfect opportunity for him. He’s got the rest of his life to work for The Firm, and its commendable to want to serve his country in this way. Plus, its adventurous, which has to please him.

    I do hope you’re right about a Christmas announcement and a summer wedding though, John. I just can’t see dragging out this limbo period with Kate until his service is completed, can you? I believe they are committed to one another and have an understanding between them, but her life will continue to be somewhat at loose ends, and she’ll be battered about horribly by much of the press until things are formalized. Plus, wouldn’t it be nice for them to be able to live together during his service in a relatively “normal” style, much like the early part of Her Majesty’s marriage to the Duke?

  4. Well, this seems like a stalling tactic. It has always been said William was a reluctant royal, but I didn’t think he was that reluctant. And I agree with John. Kate should end this relationship. If there’s no engagement imminent it makes no sense for her to stick around hoping William grows up and realizes he is not an average guy who can lead a normal life. It makes me sad to say that as I have always loved them together. But if William isn’t ready to be a full time royal he certainly isn’t ready to be anyone’s husband either. It makes sense for Harry as the second son to have a career in the military. He doesn’t have the responsibility his older brother has. But there is a lot for Prince William to know and learn before he becomes POW and then King. You have to wonder who is advising on him on these things. I just hope for William’s sake that nothing happens to the Queen in the next few years. He could find himself in a position that he is not really prepared for.

  5. John, throughout his training and while serving as an SAS officer, would William have to live on base in barracks, or could he live in a private home?

    I’d hate to see his wife go through what Fergie did as an officer’s wife. HM and Prince Philip are the preferred precedent, while Andrew and Fergie are the example to avoid.

  6. It’s certainly possible for them to live off-base with proper protection, Dan. And that would be the best solution for Kate.

    I agree with Lizzy that if she’s expected to wait even longer, while he’s away on military service, she should consider her position. But I don’t expect that is the case. William should really get this girl’s position sorted out asap, and that means an announcement at Christmas (Katie Nicholl’s call) and a wedding next summer. Anything longer that that will seem perverse and unfair.

  7. John, news sources I’ve been reading say that the 18 months of training is in addition to a 30-36 month tour of duty. That makes William’s full commitment 4 years minimum.

    Given that William is a senior royal, a one month leave next summer could already be arranged with the RAF, allowing time for a royal wedding and honeymoon. That would give the newlyweds time to live a more normal married life before they become full-time working royals.

  8. Agreed, Evelyn, and that might suit both of them very well.

  9. I have to agree with what most people are saying here…either annoucnce the wedding or break up with the poor girl. How much longer can she take of the press hounding her everyday, writing reports of how lazy she is and what not. I think this puts Kate in a very tough place, I hope they figured this all out beforehand. But won’t be the least bit surprised if they do break up.

    Which begs the question, when will William settle down? As someone mentioned earlier, he needs to learn he can’t be a regular Joe, whether he likes it or not, he has a duty. After Kate, it’ll be nearly impossible to find someone who loves him for him, not who he is.

  10. American Cousin, I’m confident all this has been worked out long ago and will emerge in due course. I still expect a Christmas announcement even if it’s for a 2010 wedding.

  11. There have been so many signals that the Royal Family expect Kate to remain by William’s side– two weddings that Kate attended in William’s stead, present at the Garter ceremony, the invitation to Charles’ official birthday party in November. Those things wouldn’t be happening if the Queen had any doubt that Prince William intends to marry Kate.

  12. I have to say that since HM is healthy at this time, and the POW is also healthy, why should William not delay his Royal training and live “normally” for a couple more years? If HM lives as long as her mother, he’ll have many years as POW in waiting prior to taking up the full mantel and I say he should be allowed to fully experience life in the “real world.”

    I would imagine that if the outlook changed for his grandmother or father, his current plan would change as well. I say, go…experience life to the fullest, marry and build the bonds of marriage that will only make them stronger when they be required to be more public. Give Kate the chance to aclimate in smaller degrees. It just makes sense to me.

  13. This is perhaps the one way he CAN be a regular Joe, albeit a
    G.I. Joe! :)

    I stand by my statement that this may be a good thing. I think there are already too many “full-time royals” working the charity rounds, with Fergie possibly falling back in line and Beatrice and Eugenie waiting in the wings. A Naval career, even if only for a few years, is better training for Kingship than the standard “court circular” circuit.

    However, if this is just a delaying tactic because he’d rather be a bachelor Top Gun than settle into family life, I agree Kate would have to take a hard look at her best interests.

    Then again, maybe she isn’t ready to settle down either? Or maybe John’s Christmas Surprise is in the cards after all? Surely William and Kate have an understanding, and they just haven’t been “court”-eous enough to share it with us. :)

  14. I don’t think I’d go that far, American Cousin, as like all other girls before, and God forbid, any who may come after, Kate surely knew he was a Prince when she started to date him. :)

    But I do think she has shown her loyalty, and it is time he either makes an honest woman out of her (to spare her remaining in limbo) or lets her go, as it does seem, as John said, cruel and unfair to leave her hanging like this.

    If Kate had been working steadily in a career we knew she had hoped for and adored, then it wouldn’t seem all that tragic if they waited for a few more years until an engagement was announced. Lots of couples manage to stay together whilst pursuing their respective careers, putting off marriage until they are finished with their education/training or when they finally wish to have children together. It is the sense many of us get that she has put her life on hold waiting for him, waiting to be his Duchess, that makes the thought of her remaining in this limbo for another 3 years seem intolerable.

    Of course, after today’s surprise announcement, we may very well get some good Yuletide news, as it just goes to show that much of what is speculated upon is false. :)

  15. I agree…paint or get off the ladder!

    On a silly note…assuming (as I am) that they have an “agreement”….who is buying the Brides magaszine for her and sneaking it to her? I can’t imagine being practically engaged and not day dreaming a bit and checking out all the latest bridal fashion. :)

    Just silliness on my part but then I love wedding planning…although I suppose she won’t have to make her own wedding favors like I did ;) So, maybe this is all about her parents needing to save a bit more in prep for the wedding??? Hm…or if it’s a Royal wedding do they still pay?

  16. Off subject…has anyone heard from Gigi? Did Ike take her offline? Hope all is well!

  17. Julie, I think the Middleton’s will have no trouble paying for Kate’s side of the wedding, including £50,000 for the reception.

    Gigi put up a comment over the weekend. Austin, TX is packed with evacuees apparently, so I imagine her sumptuous teas are off the menu temporarily. :)

  18. Coastal Texas is an absolute mess, getting worse by the hour. People seem to be maintaining good order, for now, in the midst of total devastation, but the images are sadly familiar. I don’t know what hope there is for Galveston. They’re going house to house (what houses are still standing) searching for survivors now.

  19. According to the Clarence House release, it takes 18 months of training for William to be made “operational,” and once operational, a typical term of service lasts 30 to 36 months. That’s 4 to 4 1/2 years, and I doubt the Royal Establishment would encourage him to delay a marriage that long. Having introduced Kate to Royal functions already, it would defy reason for the Family to leave her in limbo that long.

  20. John - Thanks for the update on Gigi! My prayers and wishes for everyone dealing with the weather and Ike!

    Dan - The news out of Texas is very sad regarding Galveston and the coast. I just don’t understand why people would stay there when the warnings were so direct that it would be crazy to stay….I suppose that rather answers the question…

    As for waiting 4 years to marry…there is not a reasonable person alive that would expect a young woman in her best child bearing years to wait that long unless they WANTED to wait. I’m sure they’ll announce at the holidays! In that “job” babies are not a whim. Just my opinion, of course!

  21. News from Now Magazine:
    Kate is starting her own interior design business?

    Well, that’s one thing she can do from a home office, and not need to report to work on a High Street buzzing with paps.

    http://tinyurl.com/55umqp

  22. Thanks for thinking of me, Julie! Here in Austin, Texas, we have the first day of comfortable weather that we have had since the heat began in late April. I have had the windows open since 8AM. Lovely! I only wish that the evacuees from the coastal towns and Houston could be as comfortable in their own homes. Galveston is devastated, Houston is flooded with no power and little clean water, (and it is much hotter and more humid in Houston, generally), and the mayor of Houston has announced a curfew, for good reason. It will be weeks, perhaps months before these evacuees can return to what is left of their homes. The worst we had here was higher wind than normal, no rain at all.

    Regarding Prince William, I am very pleased at this announcement regarding the next stage of his military training and feel it is a good thing. I look confidently forward to a Christmas engagement announcement and a summer wedding! I truly believe that the schedule has already been agreed to at the palace and at Clarence House, that the couple have agreed to all the details, and that the signal that this is so has been, as has been noted here on this site, the appearance of Kate at weddings and other functions, some with the Prince by her side.

  23. What a terrific solution and a marvelous way to start married life out of the eye of the storm. Marry, live in married officers quarters, establish relationships with other young couples, roll into Gramdma’s for the occasion ‘required’ event, become commonplace walking around the post town. Have a baby or two. Take photos for Mom and Dad’s business to make a little pin money.

    This could work fine.

  24. “We understand he will serve for a minimum 30-36-month period, plus 18 months of training, totalling more than four years..”

    If he will not propose to her soon, then I think that Kate should forget it all and move on. Quite honestly - I cannot see how this situation COULD go on for more than 4 years. It would be just so unfair to her.

  25. I think the powers that be have made it clear that there won’t be an engagement announcement for 18 months, which would allow W to finish his training. This sounds reasonable to me, and it appears also that CM has accepted it. Therefore, engagement announcement end of 2009, wedding Spring 2010. Sorry, but that’s the way I see it.

  26. I have been sitting here reading everyone’s point of view.
    I think that this new role for William is just what he needs. If it is as everyone writes will be a long time for him to become king, he would be wise to have some role to fullfill. It will help him to mature. The articles do say that he will be given time off for royal duties and charities. He can mesh the two jobs. (one of pilot and one of royal) That leaves us to Kate. In my wildest imagination, I cannot see William taking her to royal events, vacationing with her family, having her invited to Charles’s 60th birthday only to have no future with her. I do believe that a plan is in place for their future together. I just hope for Kate and her family’s sake that some announcement is made around Christmas. I remain hopeful that love will win out.

  27. William’s training with the military this year is quite different from the training he’ll be doing with SARF. Now, he’s moving around all the time– a few months here, a few weeks there. It would be impossible for Kate to go with him. I’m guessing that the SARF training won’t require so many changes of venue. If so, it would be easier for Kate to be settled near William’s training base, so his 18-month training for SARF falls into a different category of training than his current military secondments.

    It’s also a coup for the RAF; William will be the first in the Royal Family to serve this branch. The RAF will want to do their best to leave a good impression on their future sovereign. Supporting William & Kate’s wedding and marriage would be a step in the right direction.

  28. Oh, I do hope so…can you imagine how brutal the press will become if Kate waits around with no public declaration of an engagement? Ouch!

  29. Oh Dear God I hope an announcement comes soon or this Christmas.

  30. This article is interesting. Scroll down until you get to Kate Middleton.

    http://tinyurl.com/6kthub

  31. Kat, that is fabulous if true yet I question the woman’s motivation in sharing this with a reporter. I thought designers were required to be discreet, especially prior to anything official being announced? It would seem as if she has already talked her way out of a possible commission by revealing this.

    I am not really buying the “not ’til 2010″ delay due to the training because we brides know that the bridegroom has little more to do then to then show up sober on the Big Day, so William could certainly manage a summer 2009 wedding with a week or two off for romantic getaway following the event.

    As for cost, I believe the Royals will most likely cover the cost of everything as I recall this being the case with Diana and Camilla. I seem to remember reports of the Queen scaling back the C&C wedding to something less extravagant then what Charles was rumoured to have wished for originally.

  32. From what I understand of William’s new role, I think it is noble of him. It sounds like a step closer to people who are in need of something and would I be correct in saying that his mother would be proud of him? I’m sure all of the Royals are, though. :)

    For Miss Middleton and him to continue their relationship all depends on what is going on behind closed doors. I think they have a plan and I don’t think William’s superiors (does the next in line to the throne have superiors other than his father and the Queen? ;) ) would keep him from making a move that would have an effect on the monarchy and people.

    As for Miss Middleton, I bet she finds something to bide her time, like this new interior design venture I’ve heard about. She’s a smart girl. She will undoubtedly miss William, but it’s par for the course, no?

    If they are meant to be together then it will happen. Nothing is impossible, as we have seen. This new development in his career is one of many surprises I think we’re going to see in the next four years. :)

    I hope everyone is doing well! Especially those posters in Texas. :)

  33. That is interesting, Kat.

    It seems it’s all systems go at Clarence House where Kate is concerned. I’m not picking up any sense that this event is a long way off. Indeed, there appear to be active preparations going on.

  34. Interesting article…I would think a designer would keep that info to herself so as not to tip off the competition that they are accepting designs? But maybe that’s why her sister is not out buying Brides magazines ;) But I hope it’s true that they are preparing for an event soon as opposed to years down the road.

  35. John: “Indeed, there appear to be active preparations going on.”

    Do tell! C’mon! Give us some hints!

  36. Leslie, Clarence House has been a hive of activity recently centering around William and Kate. Plans have been put in place for some time going forward. That doesn’t happen unless something big is being prepared. ;)

  37. Oh, that sounds interesting….well, John, you do know how to keep us coming back ;)

  38. The Sun is quoting a “Royal source” as follows:

    “Kate will have to wait. William wants to throw himself 100 per cent into his RAF career.

    “From January he will start an intensive 18-month training period at RAF Kinross in Scotland.

    “This rules out him marrying any time before the summer of 2010. It may not be what the public wants to hear, but the champagne must stay on ice for now.”

    Does this sound credible, John?

  39. It depends on the Royal source, but the basic premise is not true.

    The course may be intensive, but William is sure to get a month off next summer and that would be sufficient for a Windsor wedding, and maybe an Abbey one too.

    This story has appeared in the News of the World and The Sun, not the most reliable of papers. I haven’t seen it elsewhere — the last punt the Mail had was that it would be next summer after an announcement at Christmas.

  40. Given that William & Kate’s relationship started when they were students in Scotland, I would think Kinross would be an attractive place to begin their married life. They’d have a whole year to be newlyweds there before William began his real work.

  41. John, I may be off-base here, but if that quote from the so-called “Royal source” is an exact quote, I am wondering if it is really credible. Would a Royal source speak so disrespectfully and so unprofessionally about the second in line to the throne? I hope not! That quote is, at best, incredibly indiscreet.

  42. I agree. A career in the military, even in intensive training, does not rule out marriage. It’s the military, not the RC priesthood!

  43. With a little bit of Googling, I’ve found one giant error in the “Royal source” quote:

    The base is named RAF KinLoss, not Kinross. Of course, Royal sources may not know their air bases! :)

  44. Perhaps the “Royal source” has a lisp? :)

  45. RAF Kinloss is a base of the Mountain Rescue Team. There is nothing on their website about it being a base for Sea King helicopter training, certainly not an 18-month training course.

    The Times says he’ll be training at RAF Shawbury in Shropshire, but that does not appear to be a Sea King training center either. RAF Lossiemouth in Scotland seems to be a primary site for that.

    I’m no expert on the RAF, but I think the “Royal source” has made up its information.

  46. I’ve found a piece online that says that RAF St Mawgan is where SARF trains its Sea King pilots. That’s the opposite end of the country from Scotland.

  47. The Sea King squadron at St. Mawgan, as well as the SAR HQ, has been moved to RAF Valley, North Wales, where William has received previous training on his RAF secondment. He may end up at Valley again. Too bad, because St. Mawgan is very near Duchy of Cornwall property at Newquay, which is one of Charles’s pet “sustainable development” sites.

    As for the Scotland bases, Kinloss and Lossiemouth are only 15 miles apart northeast of Inverness.

  48. Part of RAF St. Mawgan’s Mission Statement is “to effect a smooth transition from a military airfield operation to a civilian airfield operation…”

    Sounds like it’s being phased out as a military base and the good people of Cornwall are getting a new airport.

  49. Here’s info on the Sea King, which is scheduled to be phased out of the RAF in 2017.

    http://tinyurl.com/58g2tl

    It’s amazing the stuff I’ll research when a Royal is involved. :)

  50. Cornwall’s loss may well be Anglesey’s gain as it would be just a hop, skip, and a jump away to Bangor for a few Welsh lessons, perhaps? Was that also where the Prince of Wales studied prior to his Investiture?

  51. Thanks for your tireless research, Dan! You are amazing! (Well, not as amazing as John, but….) ;)

  52. News of the World is reporting that Charles intends Camilla to be his “Queen,” not his “Princess Consort,” as previously “intended.”

    I realize NOTW is not reliable, but Charles also once let it be known that he had no intention of remarrying. All in good time, seems to be his modus operandi.

    The argument is that it would take a change in law for her NOT to be crowned Queen, and she would rank behind Princesses Anne and Alexandra even though married to the King.

    I say fine with me. At that time there will be a new Princess of Wales, and no more need to tip-toe around Diana’s memory.

  53. The news articles have stated that there would not be a wedding for 18 months to 2 years. To my knowledge, William has never said that nor has CH come out and confirmed that. It is like everything else. One newspaper/magazine writes something and all of them have to get into the act. I can’t see using his RAF training as a way of getting out of a committment to Kate. That would not go over well with the English people I would think. It would be an act of selfishness on William’s part. I am not saying that wanting to join the RAF is selfish. However, Kate deserves more than I want you to wait another 2 years for me. Since I believe that William has a good heart and that he truly loves her, he would not leave her hanging out there for 2 years. I do think therefore that plans are in place to take care of her as William pursues his RAF plans.

  54. Kat, I think so too and my feeling now is that there was an agreement in place when he applied for this new training position and she moved back in with her parents. Whether that is for a summer 2009 wedding or a summer 2010 wedding remains to be seen. I agree, William is a kind hearted person and I don’t see him leaving Kate hanging without a clear direction while his life is now somewhat mapped out over the next 4 or 5 years.

    I suspect the 2009 wedding is more likely as working for her parents would seem more logical for a seven month period (May of this year through say, December ;) ) whereas I can’t really see her doing that for the next 16 months (from starting in May 2008-January 2010 annoucement, followed by a summer 2010 wedding.) Spending the next sixteen months doing what her friend told Hello! was mundane office work doesn’t seem like much fun, and perhaps a bit boring for someone with Kate’s creative talents and abilities.

  55. Maybe CM is embarking on a modelling career. See Telegraph’s interview with Issa designer Daniella Helayel. I wonder if she would really “walk” for them.

    http://tinyurl.com/5evufz

  56. I don’t think Clarence House, the Palace, or Prince William would think Kate should embark on a modeling career.

  57. Gigi, the offhand tone by the “Royal source” suggests someone with a grudge against Kate or the pair of them. It could be anyone, of course, from a footman to a supposed friend of the couple.

    It’s impossible to know the source of the source, though, and that’s the important bit.

    Evelyn, “amazing”? I’m amazed. :)

  58. I see Allison Pearson in today’s Mail is having a go at Waity Katie, all because of William’s decision to stay in the Forces. I do hope he’s got another surprise up his sleeve because Kate Middleton’s position has now become impossible.

    Link to article (Scroll down a bit)

  59. I agree, John. While it’s understandable that most men (and many of us women) fear the terrifying loss of freedom that comes with marriage, Kate has shown herself to be a very tolerant and understanding girl and he could do no better than to have a wife like that by his side.

    She has been put between a rock and a hard place, and leaving her essentially on her own like this, to be trashed by the gutter press is hardly the type of behavior anyone would consider supportive.

    There is no doubt Kate has been loyal to William. The question now is, will he be loyal to Kate? ;)

  60. I have to agree, John, and Alsgal, that Kate’s position at this point has become untenable, thanks largely to the indiscreet, carping pitbull media and their vicious personal agendas. The problem is, however, that for almost my entire lifetime, the Royal Family have taken great pride in their stance that they are above the vulgar prattlings of the media, and therefore, except in very rare occasions of serious provocation, they ignore the gutter press. If, as John believes, there is a schedule that has been agreed upon by all parties (Buckingham Palace, the Queen, Clarence House, Charles, Prince William and Kate), then perhaps the principals intend to stick to the schedule rather than to alter it to suit the media. I frankly see a situation brewing, and it is not a pleasant one. The Queen alone, with her great wisdom, tact and authority, can settle this, and I very much hope that she does. Prince William is protected, and has been from his birth, by his rank, position, and by the security guards who follow him everywhere. Kate has no such protection, and I am filled with admiration that she has not buckled under the unremitting pressure. The material point, however, is how much longer can she maintain her Herculean calm, and, as a corallary, why should she be required to? I feel very deeply that someone in authority must move to provide security for Kate, quickly, before something dreadful happens. Now is the highest time.

  61. Very true, Gigi, and for many of us who follow Royal news, Kate’s position is becoming an embarrassment.

    I believe the following scenario will emerge because it accords with both logic and decency. An engagement will be announced on Boxing Day from Sandringham for a wedding either in early summer 2009 or the summer of 2010 (the latter because of this week’s surprise).

    Either way, the announcement is the important part because it will bring her under the umbrella of the Palace and shield her from yet more Waity Katie stories.

    If not, I fear William will have blown it and his reputation will suffer, despite sterling work in the rescue services.

    That would be a great pity and totally unnecessary.

  62. Then again, what if the opposite is true?

    How much pressure is she really under right now? The occasional Katie Nicoll drivel, the “Waity Katie” remarks—she can just ignore them. As for security, has anyone threatened her life? Is she still hounded by paparazzi? I don’t see many new pictures in the tabs. However, once she becomes William’s official intended, the real frenzy will begin.

    Being made “official” didn’t protect Diana from the media onslaught, and it won’t protect Kate either.

    I agree that an announcement would be thrilling news, but no one’s well-being or reputation is truly hanging on it. In ten years no one will fault William for how long he prolonged his bachelorhood. We WILL fault him if his marriage fails, so he better be sure to get it right.

  63. I assume Kate doesn’t even know about all the garbage written about her in the tabs. She’s probably very happy with her position in her parent’s firm and William’s life. A least she doesn’t look the least bit annoyed or bothered when she’s photographed in public. So she’s either an Oscar worthy actress or not at all unde rth ekind of pressure we may assume. It may look much harder to be her from the outside than what it may feel like for her.
    I agree, Dan, that being engaged to William certainly won’t free her from criticism or get the press off her back. To the contrary as a member of the RF she’ll be even more subject of public interest than she is already. For now she can vanish for several weeks in a row and it’s really nobody’s business what she does. As a royal she wouldn’t have that opportunity. She’ll have to face the press almost on a daily basis and put on a brave face for them. The only advantage the public role would have for her, is that people will see the work she does whereas for now noone knows her schedule or what she does 24/7. But that of course wouldn’t hinder the press from complaining either. I’m sure they’ll have no problem to find fault with whatever Kate will do as a royal. After all scandal sells and there seem to be quite a few people out there who’ll attack a royal for anything they do or do not do really.

  64. Please refresh my memory: When Diana, Sarah, and Sophie became officially engaged to the Boys, did they move into Buckingham Palace or did they remain in their private homes/flats until they married?

  65. Dan, for an ordinary person, getting trashed by mid-market tabloids’ columnists is a very big deal indeed. They are presenting her as a supplicant at the court of Prince William — a sort of Nell Gwynne figure, available but with no status. The worst weapon the press has is ridicule, as every politician knows.

    I imagine Kate minds very much indeed.

    There’s also the matter of police protection. High-profile kidnapping is big business around the world. Very rare in Britain, but with our high immigration rate it’s only a matter of time.

    A few years ago, gun and knife crime were almost unknown. now we have an epidemic.

    An announcement is all it would take to head off a lot of problems.

  66. John, I hope you are correct (as you usually are) and the engagement is announced at Christmas. :)

    And not to be the one pushing the baby buggy before there’s a baby…waiting is not always a good thing in that department! I don’t mean to harp on that subject but I speak from experiece when I say that younger is better for moms and babies (but not too young of course!)

  67. Yes, but an announcement is all it would take to create a whole new set of problems for a young woman who currently shows no signs of being tormented by the naysayers in the media. If she is thin-skinned about media torment, she’s headed down the wrong aisle! ;) Her tormenters will not magically cease just because she’s an official fiancée.

    Your argument for police protection is more convincing, but I should think that could be arranged privately if it were deemed necessary. And let’s remember that police protection does not guarantee personal privacy or safety. Do names like Paul Burrell, Henri Paul, and Trevor Rhys-Jones ring any bells?

    Certainly I am not against The Announcement (it calls for upper-case by now, does it not?), but I am not convinced the sky will fall if it does not come by the new year.

    If I will jump on one bandwagon, it is that it ought to be made more tangible what Kate does with her time. I don’t think this is truly anyone’s business, but more openness in this regard might shut some people up, or at least quiet them down.

  68. I have to agree with many of the points Dan made in his excellent post.

    It’s true that if many think Kate is under media fire now, just wait until she is subjected to the rumours and constant slander most of the other Royals are subjected to, and that their often inept press secretaries seem able to do little against. Long gone are the days when the Monarchy could remain above the fray PR wise; times have changed and an out of touch Royal will find themselves most unpopular and therefore, ineffective.

    The importance of having a good reputation, of having a positive public perception is not to be underestimated and should not be dismissed as being trivial or unimportant. Gossip elects presidents and topples governments; it is often not considered a serious subject but should be treated as such.

    Even if Kate marries William next year, she and the PR dept. at CH will have their work cut out for them convincing the press and public that she was not, as many have portrayed, some sort of WAG type who thought she’d won the Prince lotto and was content to sit around thinking mostly of herself for the last three years. They will need to show she is hardworking in the way the British like for their Royals to be. It will take time but Kate has the right stuff, and now only needs the opportunity to show it.

    I also agree Kate’s security is a concern and I would be horrified to think all her very rich boyfriend has done is to provide her with a cell phone to call 999. I would think it is highly possible Kate has security that we are unaware of; a bulky pair of bodyguards is a visible deterrent but certainly not the only one.

    Lastly, it would seem that even if William has decided to wait, I think that he and Kate would be smart to take a more proactive stance in promoting her and protecting her reputation. Charles did it for Camilla prior to anything official being announced, and frankly I don’t see why William can’t do this for Kate as well.

  69. Dan, just saw your second post above and mine seems to be a complete echo. Needless to say, I agree completely. :)

  70. Indeed, whether one has been won over by her or not, Camilla’s well-planned phase-in worked perfectly. And one could argue that Kate has already begun to receive the same strategic treatment— appearing at official functions, shooting with Charles, nights out with William, etc.

    One big difference is that, in Camilla’s case, many inside and outside the Establishment were dreading an Announcement; in Kate’s case, it can’t seem to come soon enough.

    As for whether she’s WAGgish or not—blimey, the British press seems to treat all young women like that! The UK is no place to be a famous girlfriend OR wife!

  71. I agree with John. Britain is a far smaller place than America, and even here, being trashed by a tabloid, or any press or blog, is very upsetting, especially if the person under fire has no security or PR apparatus with which to fight back. I would be astounded to discover that Kate is oblivious to this. Further, where is she supposed to hide? By extension, this wave of negative media speculation and criticism, tars her family as well, and her family are business owners! Is it realistic to suppose that Kate will remain in her parents’ home, going nowhere, seeing no one but family and trusted friends and thereby be insulated from the onslaught? I fear not.

    Regarding child-bearing, I understand what you say, Julie. Nevertheless, I was born when my Mother was 41 years of age and my Father a year her senior and I grew up healthy and happy, loving nurtured by my two utterly devoted parents. My first child was born when I was 31 and my second child was born when I was age 33. No harm or detriment came to either parents or children, I am happy to relate. To a great extent, the well-being of the parents and the children relies on a number of factors including the health of all, genetics, the readiness emotionally and physically of the parents to have children, and the environment they create for the child. Age is not the only factor in successful child-bearing and child-rearing.

  72. I have more questions than answers after the switch of careers for William and about the reporting of it. First, why did this have to come out now? Kate is having her major charity event. It would have been nice to make the announcement after the event was over. Secondly, there has been wild speculation as to what is going on. Many people are getting the impression that this is the end of William and Kate. People and the news papers need to wait and see what developes. That way no one gets hurt. I agree with you Dan. William should be absolutely certain about Kate and marriage. Don’t you think though that after 5 years he truly does know if she is the one? Finally, why would William and Kate be together in Salzburg if their gelationship was not strong.

  73. Gigi, you are a blessed woman :) I did not mean to say in ANY way that age or the maturity that comes with it are bad for parenting or child rearing. I’m talking merely from a medical view.

    I am coming from the vantage point that my daughters are both high tech babies due to issues that, had I waited any longer to have my girls, could not have been fixed. I could have easily waited as nothing appeared wrong on the surface.

    Regarding the press….I’m also inclined that those who are not born to public life would be more inclined to notice and be affected by what is said in the media (or to take it personally.) I would also say that the Middletons have a business that is affected and the RF which is also a business if you look at the bottom line is also affected…even if they want to pretend they are not.

  74. I try to see this situation from both sides, so while I don’t think Kate’s situation is as dire as some of us seem to, the change of course for William (not exactly the Announcement we’ve been hoping for!) does have ominous aspects to it. It would be helpful to know:

    Has he kept this as an option on the table since he began flying quite some time ago, or is this a sudden, surprising change of heart/mind?

    How much has he shared his decision process with Kate and family? Has he been keeping counsel with Kate all along or is this similarly surprising to her? I’m sure she knew before we did, but by how much? Weeks? Days? (gulp) Hours?! And is she 100% on board?

    The next time we see them together in public may give a clue as to whether this career change also heralds a relationship change. I am on record saying the RAF sounds like a good way for him to add real substance to his Royal resumé and continue maturing into a responsible civil servant. But the way this 4 to 5-year plan suddenly came out of left field does give one pause.

    I don’t suppose we can implore them to hit the town tonight, all smiles, and put our minds to rest (well, until tomorrow anyway!)
    :)

  75. Follow this link to some input (scroll down) from Robert Jephson, Diana’s former equerry:

    http://tinyurl.com/4t8plq

    I can’t imagine CH is exercising a break-up that makes William look good and Kate look bad, as the article suggests, but Jephson ends on a hopeful note that we have already discussed: a nice beginning for them as Officer and Mrs. Wales, living safe from the media in married officer accommodations. Isn’t that how a certain Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh started out? :)

  76. Darnit, my url didn’t work. :(
    Well here’s the text from CBS News’s website:

    …to some skeptics - including Patrick Jephson, Princess Diana’s former Equerry (chief of staff) - this looks to be a setup. What he anticipates happening is that they are setting up Prince William in the perfect light and in the meantime Middleton is suffering on the sidelines.

    There has been a slew of recent press about Middleton being lazy, pleasure seeking and basically not working and just waiting to marry William. She has even earned the unfortunate nickname of “Waity Katy.” And the point that makes it even more intriguing is that Clarence House - Prince William’s office as well as Prince Charles’ and Harry’s - is not standing up for Middleton as they have in the past. They are not releasing any statements debunking her laziness, helping to prove that she has a job, anything.

    It leads one to believe that they are orchestrating a breakup that leaves the British thinking negatively about Middleton and positively about William.

    Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez asked Jephson to elaborate on the ramifications this news might have on the relationship between William and Middleton.

    “This is the question that comes up whenever William’s name is mentioned,” Jephson said. “He’s been together with Kate unofficially for more than five years now. And people are asking, when will he make it an official relationship. When is he going to propose marriage to her. He’s sure in no hurry to do that. Last year they had a break. He committed to five years in the military, maybe this is his way to defer the decision for another five years, maybe for longer, if not forever.”

    “Kind of a stretch to think he would choose a career to get away from the girlfriend. Pretty pathetic if it’s true,” Rodriguez said.

    “It is if it’s true. Equally, he wouldn’t be the first person to opt for time in uniform to sort out a tricky domestic question of this kind,” Jephson said. “There’s nothing to stop him from marrying Kate and living as many young officers do in service married accommodations. Might be a nice start to their married life together.”

    “If he doesn’t propose before he goes, maybe that should tell her something, I don’t know,” Rodriguez said.

  77. I saw that article as well…it does have some interesting points but also seems to be all over the place.

    I’m beginning to think that they need a press secretary who will say if things are silly or even plausable. It seems to me that their media front just gives out announcements and does not take questions…or that’s the impression I have anyway.

  78. I agree, except that I think the family has become so obsessed with the press and their privacy that they are driving an ever bigger wedge between themselves and their public. They have press officers, but they are terse and condescending, and almost all we ever hear from them is “it is a private matter and we don’t discuss private matters.”

    Precisely how is the public supposed to care about the Royal Family when they shutter themselves so completely from the public? They have a right to private lives, but they are a public family, like it or not. Sometimes their behavior borders on the sociopathic, and the media picks them out for it. When they leave everything so thoroughly up for conjecture, people will think, and print, the worst.

  79. John - Wasn’t the Queen a military wife for a while during the early part of her marriage? If I recall correctly, both she and Prince Phillip considered this time together some of their happiest days together, particularly given the normalcy that it allowed them to have while starting out their marriage. Would HM not see PW’s decision as a similar path for Kate and him?

    Also, I recall that Fergie was a lonely Navy wife, but since PW would live in the UK, it would seem like Kate would not have to be as isolated. Given that he had some flying exercises near the Middletons’ home earlier this year, is there a base nearby Kate’s family where William might be stationed so that she is less isolated?

  80. Dan, your URL worked fine.

    What Jephson is saying is a version of what we’ve been saying here, that William needs to be careful he’s not giving the wrong impression and that Kate will take the brunt for it. She is not so hardened to the media as he is, so needs to be sheltered somewhat.

    Two things:

    His body language at the Austrian wedding recently didn’t say “I am about to dump this girl.” Quite the contrary. The same applies to their other public appearances.

    Secondly, if he wanted to portray himself as a “love rat”, like Hewitt, the Jephson conclusion (according to CBS) would support that.

    But, ask yourself, why would he self-destruct in that way? Wouldn’t his own people — not to mention the Queen — warn him of the lasting damage he would do to his reputation?

    On the other hand, if he’s hoping Kate will walk away, given time, wouldn’t that be cowardice? I don’t believe that’s what he’s like.

    One thing’s for sure, as we’ve been saying here ahead of Jephson and CBS, William needs to crystalise his intentions now, before he heads into a new career, for the sake of his long-term girlfriend’s honour, as well as her peace of mind.

    Anything else will be disreputable, and I don’t believe he’s like that.

  81. Lisa, yes, that would be a terrific solution in the circumstances.

    However, despite the money being spent on news management at Clarence House, all is confusion now, and neither party is looking good.

    They really need to clarify the situation in a concrete way.

  82. John, sorry about the long CBS post. When I clicked on my tinyurl, it didn’t work. Guess it takes a minute to compute.

    My hope that William and Kate are on the right course comes from the symmetry with HM’s early married life in Malta with Prince Philip. It seems as though William’s career move might almost have been suggested by her. (Indeed, Lisa, HM began her marriage as a Naval Officer’s wife.)

  83. I remember first hearing about the Search and Rescue idea in an article months ago, I think when Prince William was with the RAF. The article had mentioned it as Prince William’s idea. I had wondered if it might be a short thing that he could do this fall, after his Navy secondment.

    If so, then Kate would have been aware of this idea for at least four months before the announcement. It may be one of the reasons she was included at the wings ceremony– her first connection with William’s future branch in the military, the RAF’s first opportunity to meet William’s future fiancee/wife. Rapport and support will be important to making this a good working and living relationship on all sides.

    Yes, it does seem to be a play taken from HM’s playbook. This would be a much better way to start married military life than Sarah had.

  84. I agree, Evelyn, I think this has been better planned than the way it’s appearing in the media right now.

  85. Well, the first pictures of “Skaty Katie” are on the DM website. I wish she looked happier!

  86. Yup, just seen them, Dan. Not terribly impressive, but then charities rarely are.

  87. Getty has a few pictures with more smiles.

  88. Let’s not read too much into any of these photos, as we must not forget that Kate is one of those wonderfully stoic people who, to her great credit, always keeps her chin up and who always managed a broad smile even after the breakup last year.

    Judging from their body language and the eyewitness reports from the wedding in Salzburg, I think they are very much “on” and we all have nothing to fear. Yes, PW will be training but as many have pointed out, the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh had a lovely start to their marriage in Malta all those years ago.

    My concern now is, by not announcing their intentions and keeping everyone in the dark after this recent career announcement, that Kate is now becoming a victim of the press, who with a perverse sort of glee seem to be treating her as if she is some kind of joke. This is not kind, and while PW might be used to it, it’s not fair to expect Kate to have to deal with this on her own.

    I will admit to finding Kate’s choice of attire a bit shocking. I understand it is in keeping with the theme, and that it is for a good cause, but my concern is that later on, these photos will be taken out of context and will only give more ammunition to those (some perhaps even in the Palace) who mock her.

    I would also like to see William show up and support her as this is her first big charitable event. As he did turn up for the photography/Unicef exhibit, I think it would be appropriate for him to turn up for this as well. Hopefully, the night is still young and he puts in an appearance. Please, just not wearing a gold lame jumpsuit! :)

  89. Ok, that’s a fun visual, PW in gold lame! ;)

  90. Some of these people are so mean! I am so angry right now I can’t stand to look at any more articles regarding the Disco event. Apparently Kate fell while roller skating (who hasn’t?) and they are saying all kinds of mean things now.

    Personally, I was so impressed by her attitude, to laugh and have fun even if you fall down…that’s a beautiful, confident young woman! And in my opinion, grace is an attitued and she has it!

  91. I was reading the comments in Daily Mail. There were over 130 of them! And I was really happy and a little surprised that so many of them were positive. Sometimes there are only negative ones. This time I think maybe even the majority were positive.

  92. Dagga, I was glad to see these positive comments and yours truly might have been responsible for a few of them by using a deceased family member’s name as an alias. (Here’s to all the dead relations, you are good for something after all!) :)

    Kate has done things for charity before, and had attempted to do the Sisterhood race after the breakup, so it was a relief that this was so successful and the media gave also it good coverage. This is all part of the gradual unveling of Kate that is going to occur before they are married.

    (BTW why don’t they provide a link at the end of the articles for those who wish to donate, it would be so easy to do that.)

    Now, speaking of marriage. It might have been all the theraputic gin and tonics last night (thank you Hank Paulson!) I took to cope with the current market pressures, but I had a bit of a strange dream. I only hope it was not a prescient one.

    I was sitting on the Mall, in my lawnchair, drinking my beer as I plan to do, when I saw a beautiful coach pulled by horses with a bride inside go by. Inside that coach was a grey haired woman, smiling broadly. When I looked down, I saw my very wrinkly hands holding my beer. It was then I realised the bride was Kate, and as I do not know when William will get on with things, but even you see, even this matter has sunk into the realms of my subconscious.

    I am getting very impatient with the young man, how much time does he need for heaven’s sakes?

  93. I was surprised to read DM’s comments too! There usually are more negative comments on Kate than positive ones but today’s different. Did they post all the comments so that we see less Kate haters than usual? Or has the DM shifts their way to pro Kate?

  94. Not only should they lighten up on her anyway, but how can they criticize her when she’s raising money for charity? How many of her detractors serve such a useful purpose?

    Wait until she’s photographed on the street or on a night out, and the ghouls will come out from under their rocks to smite her again.

    At least for this moment the coverage is good.

  95. Mikado, perhaps the Mail was stung by our criticism of their moderation policy after the Nathan Kay article two weeks ago. :)

  96. Love seeing Kate letting her hair down! As for her falling, I don’t see why that should bring negative publicity on her part. In fact, the pictures of her on the floor were by favorite bit because it shows a vibrant, down-to-earth young lady who can make fun of herself as well as continue to carry herself with class. Anyone agree?

  97. I am so glad that the Disco Night was a success. Kate and the committee pulled if off magnificiently. Working for a charity is a positive. Kate did look the part and as always looked great. John you said that that CH is in a state of confusion. Does it have something to do with Kate? I have read your posts and agree with you and what the other people here are saying about a plan. I can also see if he loves flying then he should use his skills to help people. However, I hope he makes it abundantly clear where he stands with Kate before he disappears from the public eye. I know that it was said that he would carry out public duties. However, I think that these are going to be far and few in between. It is just a feeling that I have in his selection of a career. I wonder what Kate will do while he is off persuing his career. I hope it is something that she is passionate about. I have every faith in her ability to make the best out of her situation. I just hope that William realizes what he has in her and will make every effort to see her as much as possible.

  98. Agreed, John, RA did indeed criticize the Daily Mail for their increasingly negative articles (which we deem to be unfair and irresponsible), and I believe I posted several comments severely criticizing the Daily Mail and, in fact, specific columnists! If they are, indeed, stung, I am certainly one of the bees who sank a stinger! :)

    I personally thought the photos of Kate skating for charity were charming, even those of her falling. She is not a professional skater, but even pros fall sometimes. The material point is that she is donating time and energy for charity, a noble and kind thing to do. It is outrageous that she has gotten criticized for this, and I did deem the carping captions on the Daily Mail photos to be unduly critical.

    I am altogether off the Daily Mail. They have violated so many of the Canons of Journalism that they may just as well paste a banner that reads “yellow press” across their masthead and have done with it. I am seriously displeased!

  99. I wonder if Prince William’s stepping back from “full-time Royal duties” is so that he doesn’t inadvertently steal the light from his father, and encourage people to think they’d like the monarchy to skip a generation.

  100. Well, the DM (now columnist Jan Moir) is criticizing Kate again. She can’t win, can she? Even with the wonderful charity roller disco, some continue to think attack her for working at Party Pieces. Makes me angry what a bunch of bullies they can be!

  101. Sorry, I forgot to post the URL of Jan Moir’s column
    http://tinyurl.com/5omnlz

    Now perhaps I should go there and give her a piece of my thoughts.

  102. My DM comments never get posted. That’s because I bash the paper, rather than the people they write about. They can dish it out, but they can’t take it.

  103. John, if the DM fixed their moderation policy, good for them. Although the hateful comments are not by the paper, as long as the DM post them it tells us that the paper shears the same (negative) opinions.

  104. I must confess to shooting off one very testy email to the Editor of the Mail for allowing that shameless sister of Satan Jan Moir to publish such a nasty piece.

    Is nothing sacred that she feels she has the right to knock Kate whilst Kate is rasing money for a cancer ward!?! Talk about journalistic bias, but of all the pictures they published, Kate flat on her back was first and foremost. Why was that necessary?

    We are not amused!#@#!

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