Chelsy Davy forgives Prince Harry
AFP is reporting that Prince Harry and Chelsy Davy, who is studying at Leeds University, have reunited after a two-hour meeting over the weekend. Harry has “vowed to take the relationship more seriously”.
He had reportedly bombarded Chelsy with text messages and telephone calls since their split last week after three years together.
“Chelsy was always going to take him back but wanted him to sweat a bit,” an unnamed friend of the couple said. “He apologised and promised to treat their relationship seriously. She agreed to give him another chance if he kept his word.”
We’ve also heard that Chelsy has been taking advice on problematic Princes from Kate Middleton, who has become something of an expert in handling an on-off relationship in recent years.
She has also been contacted by Susanna Warren, girlfriend of Princely favourite Guy Pelly. Harry apparently thought Susanna might do better as a go-between than his own efforts. It looks like he got that right.
I am glad that Chelsy and Prince Harry are back together again, but I still feel it would be prudent for Prince William and Prince Harry to distance themselves from Guy Pelly. He’s just another court jester. What on earth do they see in him?
By Gigi on November 20th, 2007 at 4:49 pm
Well, Gigi, Pelly is development manager at Mahiki, their favourite wateringhole. He’s probably difficult to avoid.
By John on November 20th, 2007 at 4:52 pm
That maybe true but I do think William & Harry think about their friendship with him. I was also glad when I heard the news yesterday. I knew that they would up back together. I hope all lessons was learned.
By Claudius on November 20th, 2007 at 5:17 pm
“Chelsy was always going to take him back but wanted him to sweat a bit”: she is not princess material.
By ClassyCanuck on November 20th, 2007 at 7:47 pm
I didn’t see this coming but hope it works out well for them. I hate to be negative, but it seems to me that he was taking her for granted prior to their break-up. Hopefully he won’t fall back into that pattern after the barrage of attention he’s paid to Chelsy to win her back.
By Melissa on November 20th, 2007 at 8:13 pm
I realize that, John, but they are not close friends with all the employees at Mahiki, so I am not sure that Pelly’s position precludes the ability of the Princes to distance themselves from him socially.
That statement bothered me, too, ClassyCanuck, as I do not approve of mind games and manipulation in relationships. However, a “friend” of Chelsy’s said that so perhaps it is not true. Let’s hope for the best.
By Gigi on November 20th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
Mind games and manipulation, sort of reminds me of what Kate
did to William.
By Judy on November 20th, 2007 at 8:49 pm
I doubt if Kate gave any serious advice on how to keep a Prince. She is far from stupid and would know that everything would be repeated back to Harry and then William.
By Eliza on November 20th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
No one really knows what was in Chelsy’s mind when she broke up. It could very well be that she fully intended to permanently end the relationship. When he came to her with his tail between his legs, she couldn’t very well be a pushover and expect him to respect her if she took him back too quickly. Perhaps it was at that point that she may have decided he should be made to wait a bit.
The wording attributed to Chelsy’s friend makes it all sound bad, but how one person interprets a situation and subsequently expresses their opinion of what happened is often far from what really transpired. My in-laws are notorious for taking one statement, re-wording it into something completely different and repeating it as a quote, so I have a healthy amount of skepticism for the comments attributed to Chelsy’s and Harry’s “friend.” I’m more concerned that this “friend” isn’t a little more circumspect in what they reveal to the press.
By Melissa on November 20th, 2007 at 9:13 pm
I do not agree that Kate used mind games and manipulation on Prince William. Their relationship seems pretty straightforward to me.
By Gigi on November 20th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
Gigi, I agree with you on that. Sometimes I find myself thinking about why people think and say such crazy things about Kate? Well I’ve come to the conclusion that once people get to know her, hear her voice and see her at public events, their views will change. Right now no one knows her so that’s the problem. What I do know is that William & Kate needed to think things through before continuing with their relationship and clearly they have. I have a feeling that Kate would never manipulate William, he’s too smart for that.
By Claudius on November 20th, 2007 at 10:49 pm
Gee Classy I hate to say this but Chelsy is Princess material. If I were her I would not put up with being taken for granted either Prince or not. It seems to me that unless a woman fawns all over a prince and makes herself to available everyone here thinks she is not cut out to be a Princess. Diana herself at first tried to fit in and Charles took full advantage of her no matter how hard she tried. Charles never had respect for her at least this generation of young women demand the respect they deserve from a man HRH or not.
By Trudie on November 21st, 2007 at 12:26 am
Trudie, I was thinking myself that this generation of Royals are having different kinds of relationships than what was considered traditional in the past (and I think that’s a good thing). They are much more personal with each other, less formal in their dating, and finding a mate seems much less “arranged” than in generations past. In many ways, I think it’s refreshing to see that they have good days and bad days and are completely human. That was part of Diana’s charm. It’s often hinted that the Royals “don’t want another Diana,” as if her showing any emotion made her unsuitable for her role. In my mind, the only unsuitable thing was that Diana never had a chance with Charles because he loved someone else, not that Diana was less than perfect at exhibiting a stiff upper lip. Any young women that the Princes choose will have imperfections but as long as they are devoted to one another and know in their hearts that they are in it for both love of one another and love of country and that they are compatible, they should be fine.
By Melissa on November 21st, 2007 at 12:59 am
[...] learning from several sources that Prince Harry and Chelsy Davy have patched up their relationship and are giving it [...]
By Prince Harry and Chelsy Together Again on November 21st, 2007 at 4:39 am
Gigi and Claudius, I agree with both of you. One of the things that I like very much about Kate Middleton is that she just exudes decency.
By Amity on November 21st, 2007 at 4:45 am
Trudie wrote: “If I were her I would not put up with being taken for granted either Prince or not.”
I completely agree. It isn’t good for anyone– man or woman, royal or commoner– to allow themselves to be a doormat for others. I’m glad Chelsy had the guts to stand up to Harry. I’m glad that Harry cares enough to try to win her back, and I hope he follows through.
“It seems to me that unless a woman fawns all over a prince and makes herself too available, everyone here thinks she is not cut out to be a Princess.”
Well, you’re overgeneralizing on that, Trudie. I agree with you, and I know others do, too. “Fawning” behavior doesn’t make for a healthy relationship, royal or not.
By Evelyn on November 21st, 2007 at 5:37 am
Sometimes I find myself thinking about why people think and say such crazy things about Kate?
Claudius, you should read some of the vitriol and vicious comments we get in the moderation panel about Kate. It staggers me that anyone could write such stuff about someone they’ve never met. It’s always seemed to me that Kate is prime material for some serious stalking.
By John on November 21st, 2007 at 9:26 am
I hope everyone here does not think I was making a veiled attack on Kate !!! I wasn’t I very much like Kate I just sometimes think William takes her for granted. Kate always has a smile on her face despite William being so drunk leaving a club. It appears that drinking to excess is more preferable than having less and enjoying Kates company. I hope for the sake of their relationship she puts her foot down when they go clubbing and start demanding he drink less and spend more time in a sober manner talking and dancing with her. I would hate to see her marry him and putting up with an alcoholic for a husband.
By Trudie on November 21st, 2007 at 12:15 pm
I think we know your views by now, Trudie. Your occasional mild rebukes are pure gold compared to the hate mail we get. That’s why I always zap them before they appear on the site. If Kate reads Royal Anecdotes she won’t find the abuse that’s published elsewhere.
By John on November 21st, 2007 at 12:25 pm
Thank you for that John! I don’t even venture to those other sites for that very reason. I like to read the comments, but not the insults!
By Cate on November 21st, 2007 at 12:30 pm
Trudie, I didn’t think for a minute that you were attacking Kate. I thought quite the opposite is true: that you’re standing up for Chelsy and Kate. I, too, think the young Princes may be taking their girlfriends for granted (I could be wrong…that’s just how it looks to me).
It seems sometimes that these young women get the brunt of the scrutiny and that any tiny misstep or show of emotion draws the criticism that they are not suitable mates. I’ve tried to find a way to delicately say that perhaps if the Princes were not born into their Royal lineage, they might not be considered “Prince material,” as they do exhibit a lack of good judgment on many occasions. Many people brush off the frequent drunkenness as “boys will be boys” but at some point, everyone has to grow up. I think it’s unfair, given the obvious flaws of these young men, to expect so much more from the young women who haven’t had years to acclimate themselves as to the proper protocol of the Royal Family as the Princes have.
By Melissa on November 21st, 2007 at 1:12 pm
My dear Trudie, I assure you we did not think you were attacking Kate Middleton. Your fair and balanced comments are well-received by all of us and I quite look forward to reading your posts!
I also agree with Melissa that the media seems to focus their scrutiny on the women in famous relationships rather than the men. I also agree that it is unhealthy for either party in a relationship to take the other party for granted. “Absolute power corrupts absolutely” was meant to comment on monarchs and dictators, but it is also true in relationships. There must be an equal status for there to be harmony and happiness.
By Gigi on November 21st, 2007 at 3:46 pm
Maybe it was a pretend split-up. Anyway, good for them.
By kit on November 21st, 2007 at 4:20 pm
Melissa, I agree. Things people say about Kate and Chelsy in the same breath as “not royal material” usually apply to the princes, too. If things were the other way around, I’m not sure William and Harry would be “good enough” for Princesses Kate and Chelsy. I’m not saying the boys are bad, just that we seem to expect a higher standard of behaviour from their girlfriends than we do from them.
By Sarah on November 21st, 2007 at 9:56 pm
Happy Thanksgiving to all my fellow American friends here!!! As for the International friends I do give thanks for all the fun we have posting here. I raise a glass to you. I’m happy to see we are on the same page regarding Kate. As I have said I like her very much but I wish she would do a Chelsy and make him sweat a little. William may be the future King but as for relationships he really should put Kate and her feelings first. Clearly she loves and adores William and that was sown during their days at St. Andrews when life was anonymous and the media kept away. fast forward a few years and with the media Kate is already treated as a semi-wife putting up with his louche behavior when they are in public together. If he really has respect for Kate then at least hold her hand in public and stop embarrassing her when exiting a club drunk as a skunk. She deserves better treatment than this.
By Trudie on November 22nd, 2007 at 12:42 pm
A happy Thanksgiving to you, Trudie. I hope all our American readers and contributors have a great day — while not forgetting Royal Anecdotes, of course.
By John on November 22nd, 2007 at 12:49 pm
John how could we forget RA we all had serious issues not being able to get here. As I said John I raise a glass to all non American posters. Although I would not count on Gigi posting today knowing her love of family and food I’m sure she is busy cooking a delectable feast!!!! Gigi if you do post we can swap menus later. hehe. I’m waiting to get to the pumpkin cheese cake myself.
By Trudie on November 22nd, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Pumpkin cheesecake sounds great, Trudie. I can hear those tables groaning and sagging in the middle all the way from New York to Texas.
Here we’ll content ourselves with a ploughman’s lunch of bread, cheese and pickle.
By John on November 22nd, 2007 at 1:15 pm
Happy Thanksgiving to you, Trudie, and to all the Americans who post here on this wonderful site! I just finished making the stuffing and will be dressing the turkey in a few minutes! The weather is perfect here–40 degrees, strong breeze, overcast and grey skies–just like November should be! The Macy’s Thanksgiving Parade was wonderful as usual and we saw Santa Claus ride into Manhattan at the end! These traditions are so lovely. All my life I have watched the Macy’s Thanksgiving Parade while I made the stuffing and prepared the turkey and I am sure millions of women across America do the same. We are having a traditional menu of roasted turkey with sage dressing, wine, rolls, fresh green beans, cranberry sauce, fruit salad, mashed potatoes, gravy, and pumpkin pie and apple pie for dessert.
To all our dear Royal Anecdotes companions, I send warm greetings! May we be truly grateful for all the blessings we enjoy! May God in His mercy continue to bless us all.
By Gigi on November 22nd, 2007 at 4:38 pm
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone! We gave a beautiful crisp day here in Minnesota– below freezing, but the sun is shining. My cranberry-apple sauce, yam casserole, and crock-pot dressing are ready; next I’ll start the turkey and work on pumpkin chiffon pie.
I know Canada celebrates Thanksgiving in October. Does Britain have a Thanksgiving tradition?
Royal Anecdotes is among the things I’m grateful for this year. I enjoy the conversation here almost every day, and look forward to our future RA cyber-celebrations!
By Evelyn on November 22nd, 2007 at 6:27 pm
Well, folks, I’ve just finished eating my Thanksgiving feast and feel like the turkey – stuffed!
My best wishes for a Happy Thanksgiving to all my felow American posters and my international RA friends are in my thoughts today, as well.
John, have a cyberspace Thanksgiving dinner on us and forget about the bread, cheese and pickle.
By Arthur on November 22nd, 2007 at 7:47 pm
Happy Thanksgiving to all! My best wishes to everyone celebrating Thanksgiving today, whether near or far. I do love the Macy’s parade, as well. It is a wonderful tradition, right up there with the Tournament of Roses parade on New Year’s Day.
John, let me know if you get the cyberturkey I’m sending your way.
Maybe Trudie will send me a cyberslice of that pumpkin cheesecake. Sounds delicious! 
By Melissa on November 22nd, 2007 at 7:54 pm
Gigi, are you in Texas for Thanksgiving? It was in the 50s here in Massachusetts – 40 is cold for Texas!
By Arthur on November 22nd, 2007 at 10:08 pm
Arthur you were in the 50s in Mass, Evelyn is freezing in Minn and here in NY we were near 60. Gigi out menu was nearly identical except for sage dressing and fruit salad. the pumpkin cheese cake was delectable as were the apple and blueberry pie. I’m stuffed to the gills and still drinking coffee to balance out the wine. OK everyone time for black friday and cyber monday Happy Holidays!!!!!!
By Trudie on November 23rd, 2007 at 2:26 am
Cyber Monday? I haven’t heard about that. What’s that, Trudie? (or anyone else who knows)
By Evelyn on November 23rd, 2007 at 4:50 am
Arthur, we are in Texas! Twenty hours ago it was 85 degrees and then a cold front blew in and it is 40 degrees with a strong wind! It is supposed to be in the 40’s for the Texas-Texas A&M game tomorrow, then warmer for the weekend. GO LONGHORNS! HOOK ‘EM!!
By Gigi on November 23rd, 2007 at 5:33 am
Evelyn, Cyber Monday is the online version of Black Friday, where online retailers have holiday shopping specials. The internet will be a busy place on Monday and it is being said that hackers are poised to strike, so be sure to have your computer protections up-to-date.
By Melissa on November 23rd, 2007 at 10:13 am
Yesterday it was 60 degs here in the West Country of England, the perfect temperature for a ploughman’s lunch.
I must say your menus sound fantastic, if a little favourable for the avoirdupois.
I’m glad you all had a great time.
Evelyn, Thanksgiving is a celebration of independence from us, the British. So, no, we don’t tend to put the flags out for it. However, most English people are happy that the Americans have done so well since we left. You have deserved your pumpkin cheescake — once a year.
By John on November 23rd, 2007 at 12:55 pm
It’s interesting how you perceive this holiday from across the pond, John.
I don’t know that any of us think of it as a celebration of our independence from Britain. The religious folk among us (me included) still regard Thanksgiving as an opportunity to give thanks to God. We do remember the history of the Pilgrims, and especially their desire to have freedom of religion, but we also recognize that Britain has changed in the intervening 450+ years.
Among the farming communities where I live, one focus of Thanksgiving is thanking God for a good harvest. The more common focus across our nation is being thankful for family.
By Evelyn on November 23rd, 2007 at 2:54 pm
In that case, Evelyn, it’s very similar to our Harvest Festival which occurs at the “Harvest Moon” each year. People bring all kinds of breads and fruits and vegetables to the altar at church and celebrate the “season of mellow fruitfulness”.
Unfortunately, since many of the traditional communities are breaking down now, it’s only celebrated in villages and towns in the countryside. However, the old ways do live on.
By John on November 23rd, 2007 at 3:08 pm
…avoirdupois
I had to look that up in the dictionary, John. One learns something new every day here at Royal Anecdotes. Too bad the press didn’t refer to Fergie as the Duchess of Avoirdupois. It sounds more genteel than the Duchess of Pork!
By Arthur on November 23rd, 2007 at 6:29 pm
I’m sure Fergie would love that, Arthur. More brownie points with Weight Watchers.
By John on November 23rd, 2007 at 8:17 pm
Does anyone know the reason why that Sarah, Duchess of York wasn’t at the anniversary service? I just feel like she had the right to be there. She is still a member of The Royal Family.
By Claudius on November 23rd, 2007 at 9:15 pm
Actually if my history is correct the American Thanksgiving started when the first colonists arrived and after surviving a rather harsh winter when the first harvest was so bountiful they decided to celebrate and give thanks by inviting friends and the indians who taught them to survive to share in the harvest.
Evelyn Sarah probably was not invited because she had requested that she no longer attend the occasional public celebrations or mourning with the RF after the Queen Mothers funeral.
By Trudie on November 24th, 2007 at 1:26 am
That is very interesting. Although I like her, I think she get carried away by not going to these events. She is still a member of the Royal family and mother to two future Queens, although they may never be queens. Also I realize that The Duchess of York does a lot of work for her charities and she keeps busy by doing carring out her engagements with such dedication and I have yet to see her honored by The Queen in anyway. I know she enjoys a great relationship with Her Majesty but I don’t see why she hasn’t been getting the attention that she deserves. What do you think John, Gigi?
By Claudius on November 24th, 2007 at 5:47 am
Claudius, Fergie is no longer an HRH, although she uses her title by dint of being the mother of two of the Queen’s grandchildren.
Prince Philip insisted she no longer attend Royal functions. Technically, whether she’s a “member of the Royal Family” or not is a tricky one. Being the family it is, I would think probably not. But maybe she can tell us herself.
By John on November 24th, 2007 at 9:20 am
Trudie and Evelyn, I think I’m getting Thanksgiving mixed up with Independence Day on July 4. Silly me. It’s obviously an American version of our Harvest Festival.
By John on November 24th, 2007 at 9:22 am
John you must still be mourning the end of summer.LOL
By Trudie on November 24th, 2007 at 12:18 pm
Well I’m not doubting if she is still is a member of the royal family, she is a member of the family but what I’m saying is it seems not to make any sense why she don’t attend some events. She didn’t go to The Queens 80th birthday service, she didn’t attend Diana’s memorial service and now this service. I just think it’s wrong for her not to go to these events. I guess someone have to die for her to attend. I did hear her say on The View when she was a guest co-host that her daughters represnt her at public events. I just think it’s strange.
By Claudius on November 24th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
Claudius, she is divorced. Thus, she is no longer part of the family. As I understand it, that is what it means to be divorced. I think it would be strange if she were to show up at royal events.
By Amity on November 24th, 2007 at 10:51 pm
It is strange, Claudius and it is inappropriate, too. But it is not the choice of the Duchess of York, for all her gracious words. Prince Philip has an unfortunate character flaw that rears its ugly head occasionally. He can be very unforgiving and quite vindictive and his leveling this edict that the Duchess of York be banned from Royal events is just one example of this failing. Neither the Duchess of York nor Princess Diana have done things more unbecoming than Prince Philip has done, but he forgives himself and expects to be forgiven and cannot extend the same tolerance to others. In the fullness of time, it may well sully the relationship he has with Prince Andrew and his daughters, Princess Eugenie and Princess Beatrice. I certainly would not respect nor honor a grandfather who treated my own Mother so badly.
By Gigi on November 24th, 2007 at 10:51 pm
For that matter, I think it would be odd and completely out of place if Kate or Chelsy were present at events intended for the Royal Family as well.
By Amity on November 24th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
That might be the case if there had been no children of the marriage between Prince Andrew and Sarah, Duchess of York, Amity. But there are, in fact, two daughters who were born of the marriage. Neither Prince Andrew nor Sarah, Duchess of York have remarried. She is part of the family as long as and to the extent that Prince Andrew, Duke of York wishes her to be included. In this instance, I imagine that Prince Andrew feels incapable to cross Prince Philip, who is never more dangerous than when he is contradicted.
By Gigi on November 24th, 2007 at 11:05 pm
It is puzzling how some divorced members of the family remain in good standing with the Royals while others do not. Lord Snowden, Princess Margaret’s ex-husband, continues to be included in many Royal occasions and still photographs the Queen and her immediate family. However, I can’t recall seeing Mark Phillips at any Royal gathering since he and Princess Anne divorced.
With respect to Sarah, I believe she became upset at how the Royal family would pick and choose which high profile, public events were OK for her to attend, such as the funerals of Diana and the Queen Mother, yet she would be snubbed at more intimate family occasions like the weddings of Edward and Sophie and Charles and Camilla. At Christmas, Sarah would be invited to stay in a house on the grounds of the Sandringham Estate, but not allowed in the “main house” with the rest of the Royal family, including her two daughters. What could be more humiliating? After a while, anyone would tire of that kind of treatment. I believe that’s the main reason Sarah did not attend Diana’s Memorial Service. I feel it was a mistake, because the service honored Diana, not the Royal family and the invitation was extended by Princes William and Harry. Nevertheless, Sarah has finally decided to move on and not attend any Royal event, regardless of the occasion.
By Arthur on November 25th, 2007 at 12:10 am
It was more than that, Arthur. It is known that Prince Philip flatly refuses to speak to the Duchess of York, or even to acknowledge her presence. The Duchess of York, dutiful Mother that she is, no doubt felt that such insulting conduct on the part of Prince Philip placed Prince Andrew and also Princess Eugenie and Princess Beatrice in an untenable position. Graciously, she chose to absent herself. The Queen should have put her foot down on such base behavior years ago, but she has no control over Prince Philip. To invite a person who is the Mother of your grandchildren to your home for Christmas and then to forbid her presence in the main house is base behavior. It is conduct unbecoming of the Royal Family and sadly says far more about the Royals than it does about the Duchess of York.
By Gigi on November 25th, 2007 at 12:21 am
Gigi, I know Prince Philip despises Sarah and that is never going to change. It’s just shameful this is all played out in front of Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie. I understand both Princesses have expressed displeasure at how their mother is treated; however, while the Queen rules the nation, Prince Philip rules the roost. That’s a concession the Queen made early in her marriage and even she won’t cross Philip. As in most families, disputes like this aren’t usually resolved until someone dies and then it’s too late to bemoun all the lost years.
By Arthur on November 25th, 2007 at 12:56 am
I’ve wondered if Prince Andrew and Sarah might remarry after Prince Philip’s funeral. While both Sarah and Andrew have had relationships, neither of them has remarried, and they both admit to still being on good terms. I’m sure Philip wouldn’t tolerate them resuming their relationship, but maybe once his opinion is removed from the scene, that could change.
By Evelyn on November 25th, 2007 at 1:18 am
Evelyn, maybe Sarah and Andrew could marry at the funeral. After all, the clergy and family would already be assembled. Let’s kill two birds with one stone!
By Arthur on November 25th, 2007 at 1:22 am
By Evelyn on November 25th, 2007 at 1:32 am
Sounds great to me, Evelyn. I think Sarah should wear red!
By Arthur on November 25th, 2007 at 1:36 am
Yes, there would need to be a bit of a break in the schedule to allow everyone time to change from funeral garb to wedding finery. Of course, Sarah wouldn’t need to worry about doing a quick-change, since she wouldn’t be attending the funeral. That would make Philip roll over in the grave!
By Evelyn on November 25th, 2007 at 1:53 am
Evelyn, I think Sarah should attend the funeral wearing red! There’s no reason for her to mourn.
By Arthur on November 25th, 2007 at 1:57 am
Realistically, there should be a period of mourning before the nuptials. It would be a great strain on the Queen to bury her husband and immediately celebrate her “favorite” son’s wedding.
By Evelyn on November 25th, 2007 at 2:14 am
It may sound wierd but I do feel like The Duke & Duchess of York are still each others companions. So it would not be right for either of them to remarried to someone else. Prince Andrew said most recently in a interview that he and Sarah makes sure that they stay a close family and you can easly see that when the official picture was taken of them for Beatrice’s birthday. Maybe her relationship with Prince Philip is coming to light because not too long ago, Sarah was pictured with her daughters and The Queen & Prince Philip at a polo match. They were all in the royal box so I think things are coming around. But one person who Sarah really loves and respect is The Queen. But I wonder is the Duke preventing Sarah from being honored by The Queen? It just a shame that she has no CBE, KG or anything.
By Claudius on November 25th, 2007 at 2:17 am
I hate to point this out but I think the reason Sarah did not attend the memorial service for Diana was because of the media circus surrounding the Charles insists Cams be there and she wanted no part of that. As most know that service was a farce and as far as i’m concerned the only one of the royals to celebrate Diana’s life with love and loyalty was Harry and he was ripped to shreds days later in the press. IMO it seems that only WILLIE LOVES HIS NEW MUMMY.
By Trudie on November 25th, 2007 at 2:18 am
Evelyn, we should probably quit while we’re ahead. I don’t want to incur the wrath of John and be banned from RA for life.
By Arthur on November 25th, 2007 at 2:22 am
Yes, I’m sure John will have a laugh when he reads how silly we’ve been on Saturday evening US-time.
John, I think we’re really ready for a new article. Any royal news to discuss?
By Evelyn on November 25th, 2007 at 2:38 am
I don’t think that Prince William really likes Camilla. I think Prince William is a peacemaker and that he avoids confrontation like the plague. He’ll do anything to keep Charles happy because the consequences for everyone when Charles isn’t happy are pretty grim.
By Gigi on November 25th, 2007 at 3:45 am
It sounds like Charles is a lot like Philip in that respect. Let’s hope that “like father, like son” ends with Charles.
I agree, Gigi– William has learned (probably from Diana) that he must toe the line where his father is concerned. Let us all hope and pray that William will cut a new path for the Royal Family.
By Evelyn on November 25th, 2007 at 3:59 am
Since we have been commenting tonight about family members who are excluded from Royal events, I often wonder why we never see the Queen’s first cousin, George Lascelles, Earl of Harewood, front and center on Royal occasions. The Earl of Harewood is a Grandson of King George V and the only surviving son of the Queen’s late aunt, Princess Mary, the Princess Royal. In the photo of the Queen and Prince Philip’s Diamond Anniversary party at Clarence House last week, the Queen’s Kent and Gloucester cousins are present, but no Harewoods. Did something happen to make George Lascelles, Earl of Harewood, persona non grata to the Queen?
By Arthur on November 25th, 2007 at 5:01 am
I have a feeling that William will take the royal family to a new path. Royal experts have said that when he becomes King he will restore Diana’s HRH. I think that will be great. I do think William likes Camilla but in his own way. He also knows his father needs love and attention in order to carry out his role and Camilla gives him that. I also think that William will pay more attention to his aunt The Duchess of York who is said to have a good relationship with.
By Claudius on November 25th, 2007 at 5:39 am
I don’t know about the keeping Charles HAPPY on the part of Harry look at pictures of the anniversary celebrations at the Abbey, you can see Willie smiling with Cams while Harry is pointedly ignoring her. Those were the same images at their passing outs etc. As for the Earl of Harewood well he divorced his first wife and married his pregnant mistress causing a scandal to their eyes. Apparently only Charles is entitled to not only have a mistress and nearly bring down the monarchy but could marry her as well.
By Trudie on November 25th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
Well, the theories come thick and fast.
I’m remembering that in the midst of all the Diana troubles, Fergie was photographed sucking an American financiers’s toes in front of her two children (or was it the other way round?). And there were many other scandals too, not the least concerning large debts.
The Queen’s parents were the Duke and Duchess of York, so seeing a Duchess of York behaving like that was the last straw. Prince Philip supported his wife — who couldn’t express outrage — by putting himself on the line. As a Naval officer he took the flak for the Queen. I’ve always admired him for that.
By John on November 25th, 2007 at 3:22 pm
People has always got that wrong. She was not sucking his toes and he was not sucking her toes. He was just playing around with her but the media has always made a big deal about that. The media is good for stirring up old memories when the royal family has put things in the past.
By Claudius on November 25th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
Maybe he was clipping her toenails with his teeth, Claudius.
By John on November 25th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
Topless Fergie is photographed having her toes sucked by her financial advisor, while married to Andrew. Charles is recorded as saying he wants to be a tampon inside his mistress, while married to Diana. Diana has a lengthy affair with her riding instructor, while married to Charles. Anne’s love letters from another man are stolen and made public, while married to Mark Phillips. Princess Margaret cavorts with her landscaping boy-toy, on the Island of Mustique, while married to Lord Snowden. How did the Queen maintain her sanity?
By Arthur on November 25th, 2007 at 5:18 pm
Maybe he was clipping her toenails with his teeth…
Be careful, you might come down with a case of Tomaine poisoning!
By Arthur on November 25th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
She kept her sanity, Arthur, but not, John, by relying on Prince Philip to take the hits for her. He created far more scandalous picadillos than anyone in the Royal Family. While Princess Elizabeth was pregnant with Prince Charles, he was having a very public fling with one of his high-profile girlfriends. Some have denied it happened, but King George VI, who was on the throne at the time and had access to the best information available anywhere, believed it, commanded Prince Philip to come to the Palace and ripped Philip to shreds for his philandering. This was not the first time and it most assuredly was not the last incident involving Prince Philip and other women. Let’s all try not to get too misty-eyed about Prince Philip in light of the Diamond Anniversary. The marriage has lasted because of the forebearance and discipline of the Queen, not Prince Philip. Whatever else he is (intelligent, hard-working) he is also a selfish, insecure, arrogant cad. His son, Charles takes after him. To the end of my days I will never understand why Prince Philip did not realize how incredibly lucky he was to marry Queen Elizabeth and behave accordingly. Every single reason King George VI and Queen Elizabeth had for opposing the marriage of Elizabeth and Philip was valid, and all their fears were, sadly, realized.
By Gigi on November 25th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
Well calm down Gigi, your anger towards Philip is understandable but don’t kill us all in the process. LOL. Although I respect Prince Philip and like his thinking sometimes, he can be something else. Now I understand when William gave a interview and said that he don’t agree with his grandfather on somethings but respects him as well.
By Claudius on November 25th, 2007 at 7:29 pm
LOL, Claudius. Gigi takes no prisoners!
By Arthur on November 25th, 2007 at 7:31 pm
My dear Claudius, I am not angry at Prince Philip or anyone. I merely treat the Duke of Edinburgh with the contempt he so richly deserves.
Charles, on the other hand, is beneath my contempt. UGH! Arthur, it is true that I often take no prisoners, but I promise that I have not, nor will I, kill anyone! 
By Gigi on November 25th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Gigi, I know you won’t kill anyone. I’m just joking with you. But I understand what you are saying.
By Claudius on November 25th, 2007 at 9:31 pm
Thank you, Claudius, I appreciate your kind words. Today, with rain, cold temps, gray skies and winds that chill where we live, deep in the heart of Texas, I am happily putting up the Christmas tree, merrily decking the house with Christmas decorations and watching that wonderful ’30s version of Dicken’s “A Christmas Carol” that starred Gene Lockhart, his wife and his daughter June as three members of the Cratchit family! While I do so, I am eating apple pie and pumpkin pie left over from our Thanksgiving feast and drinking cup after cup of hot, fragrant tea! Mayl I serve any of you a slice of pie and pour you a cup of tea? I have handwhipped heavy cream at the ready as well. We must, all of us, keep up our strength for the rigors of Christmas preparations and the rounds of holiday fetes which lie ahead.
By Gigi on November 25th, 2007 at 9:57 pm
Arthur, it is true that I often take no prisoners, but I promise that I have not, nor will I, kill anyone!
I’m very happy to hear that, Gigi. It would be very difficult to serve tea from prison!
By Arthur on November 26th, 2007 at 1:40 am
With Gigi, nothing would be impossible!
By Evelyn on November 26th, 2007 at 3:12 am
My dear Arthur, we still have the death penalty here in Texas. I fear in the eventuality of the scenario we are imagining, I would be languishing in a place so hot that water would boil without a kettle on the stove. In that circumstance, hot would take on an entirely new meaning.
Therefore, I shall espouse moderation and may cooler heads prevail!
My dear Evelyn, thank you for your vote of confidence!
By Gigi on November 26th, 2007 at 4:38 am
I’m thinking of changing the name of this site to Royal Titbits, incorporating Gourmet Anecdotes.
By John on November 26th, 2007 at 10:25 am
I respect most of the views you express here but once again Kate Middleton seems to be ignored by all and sundry including William. Se doesnt deserve that. She is a decent,loyal friend but fear she is (as described in Australian paper) being used as a doormat. Apart from when William is drunk have you ever seen him with Kate or seen him even look at her. I think she is paying his price for asking him not to include ‘the posse’ when they are out together. I honestly cant see it lasting now but feel that Kate will always be there for him
By penny on November 26th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
It’s the time zone difference, John. Some of us go hog wild (metaphor!) while you slumber across the Pond.
By Gigi on November 26th, 2007 at 8:15 pm
i am glad Chelsy is back with Harry. I have respect for Chelsy because she takes life easy and although she is rich she lives a simple down to earth life, she has a BRAIN, BRAIN BRAIN. She is rich enough to live in a lice house on campus but lives in a regular college apartment (very regular), arrived in London for school in a regular way – nothing special like VIP pass at the airport. She is really a well rounded girl. i like her. I also believe that she likes the prince because she fell in love and has nothing to gain from it aside getting love back. Now Kate on the other hand is not convincing as genuine – i am not convinced – lets leave it at that.
By bless on November 27th, 2007 at 12:59 am
Penny, I think you’ll find that since the split in April, Kate has been very much in charge. She’s obviously decided to keep a low profile after the criticism of her clubbing. We don’t really know what’s going on behind the scenes, and that’s as it should be.
By John on November 27th, 2007 at 9:43 am
Bless, I think they’re both splendid girls, but with different temperaments. If you switched them over, the chemistry wouldn’t be right though.
By John on November 27th, 2007 at 9:44 am
What do we know about Susanna Warren, John? That name sounds oddly familiar. Is she a member of the nobility?
By Gigi on November 28th, 2007 at 6:26 am
Gigi, according to Richard Kay : [Guy Pelly] “has found a filly with an impressively ‘royal’ pedigree of her own.
“She is leggy blonde Susanna Warren, 19, who is the granddaughter of the Queen’s great friend and racing manager, the 7th Earl of Carnarvon, who died in 2001.”
Porchy, as the Earl was known, was one of the Queen’s very best friends. He died a few years back and she was visibly upset.
By John on November 28th, 2007 at 11:09 am
So this young lady is the daughter of Lady Caroline (Carolyn ?)Warren who was the late Earl’s only daughter. If my memory serves me, the Earl also had two sons, the elder of whom is now the 8th Earl. I always loved the nickname “Porchy” which comes from his title Baron Porchester.
Thanks for the information, John.
By Gigi on November 28th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
guys from time immemorial the royal family or people in high society had mistresses or lovers who were their kicks aside the people they were married to. It was a quiet arrangement that was never veiled out to the public. The reason everyone knows about what goes on is because people these days talk/media etc. affairs were never meant to be talked about. Because marriages were arranged, they both understood that this sort of thing will go on, however, it was never discussed in public. It was a marriage of convenience and suitable arrangement – not based on love. The reason everyone knows about Diana’s situation etc is because of the aggressive media today which pays an arm and a leg to get this information. In addition the respect for the royals has changed over time to where the media doesnot have boundaries of decency.
Someone mentioned that Dianna had an affair etc – i dont know how you can be married to man who doesnot give a damn about you and not have an affair. If anything she waited for so long to have one.
By bless on November 28th, 2007 at 5:10 pm